What sorry means

[tlautrec]

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Hi guys!

I'm sure many of you have encountered one or two games where it ended pretty close, with the final card a winner based on a wrong discard. And then comes the apologies. Blah blah.

Imagine this, the above happening perhaps 10 times in a row. Now, the apologies for the 10th time, would it still work? I'm sure it is still a sincere, heartfelt apology. And of course, this is just a game, why go so hard on the poor person who's already apologized?

Now, if we extrapolate into the future, such apologies are bound to happen tons of times again. Because whoever who's making these mistakes are not changing them. It is indeed just a game, but for the sake of showing the basic respect to the people who are playing it properly, you should make an effort to think a little before you play. I'm sure it's not half as difficult as PSLE mathematics for someone to realise that after putting down DIAMONDS twice in a row and getting it trumped by the declarer, the declarer's last card is definitely NOT a diamond. And yet he still kept diamonds. I mean, this is clearly not putting in any effort into your play.

You might call me obssessed with wins/losses. No, I'm not as obssessed with that as with one's respect for the opponents. I give my best when I play and when I see people making a mistake or two, I give some advice to them to tell them that that could be improved. When I make mistakes and when people tell me that it's wrong, I apologize and I try to remember NOT TO REPEAT IT. Of course, you could treat it as a game and just brush it away. But if you're that afraid of being told off, and yet you don't want to know how to not get told off the next time, are you really improving when you see that 'LEVEL UP' sign next to your username?

And even before I finish my words, everyone leaves the room. Just like how kids hide away their bad test scores from their parents and don't want to listen to their reprimanding. If you want to shut me up, prove to me that what I've said is history and you can play well now. I would be sincerely and pleasantly surprised if any of my words helped you to play better. AND if my advice is wrong, feel free to tell me what is wrong. Ignoring will just makes me think that I'm right and I'm not even shy of thinking that way.

So this is what this bridge community is about? Not learning from mistakes and hates being told off? Running away? Too weak to rebuff me?

[warlordvergil]

If u ask me about games i play for fun and i think most people do same so saying sorry to friend's is not like friend's have to say.. i don't think mistakes matter if you have friend's in match actually no one has to apologies but people are nice in viwawa so they say sorry i think they don't have to do that it would make game more friendly...

[tlautrec]

Originally Posted by warlordvergil

If u ask me about games i play for fun and i think most people do same so saying sorry to friend's is not like friend's have to say.. i don't think mistakes matter if you have friend's in match actually no one has to apologies but people are nice in viwawa so they say sorry i think they don't have to do that it would make game more friendly...

I don't think 1 or 2 games matter as well. But I was there for more than 10 games. It was a stretch of repeated mistakes.(note: repeated) Let me make this analogy. Imagine in soccer, you have a defender who keeps making defensive errors and letting the other team score. After half time you're trailing 10-0 thanks to that defender. He of course, apologizes sincerely and profusely after conceeding each goal, but he never learns. Would you just leave the game after he conceeded 5 goals, or would you actually stay there and try to help him improve? Most of the people would choose the former I guess, because even if you choose the latter, you might not be appreciated. Which is why I rant here, because most people run away either when they hear advice that they don't like to hear, or meet people that don't play well with them.

And then, there's the 'oh I only play with friends I don't play with strangers' reason, so they can evade anyone that do not belong in their friends list. If everyone does that, what happens if your friend happens to be a player who is only gracious in winning but a complete sore loser? What happens if your friend is a wonderful player but a really risky bidder? Would you now start running away from your friends? Or tell them to improve? Would they listen?

And perhaps you would say, this is just a game. Of course, winning or losing does NOT matter. What I'm implying that matters, is respect for other people who is putting efforts into the game. Playing a 9 after 2, 3, and 7 are played = thinking. Playing an Ace quickly after the 2,3,7 even though you have a lower card = not thinking. Do you think the latter is showing respect for the other players if he repeatedly does that for 10-20 times?

[mjking78]

Originally Posted by tlautrec

And perhaps you would say, this is just a game. Of course, winning or losing does NOT matter. What I'm implying that matters, is respect for other people who is putting efforts into the game. Playing a 9 after 2, 3, and 7 are played = thinking. Playing an Ace quickly after the 2,3,7 even though you have a lower card = not thinking. Do you think the latter is showing respect for the other players if he repeatedly does that for 10-20 times?

Dear tlautrec,

I understand what you mean and agree with you totally .

I can relate so much to that "Ace after 2, 3 and 7" stunt. Some other annoying stunts include, the "2, 3, trump before the partner who is the bidder" and the "2, 3, Ace before the partner who is the bidder", just to name a few.

Immediately when the person does that, he / she gets blocked and kicked* out from my room, without even the chance to apologise and irregardless of their level (read: i have kicked level 50 and above who are guilty of these stunts).

Just like what you have said, respect the other players who make an effort to play well. I appreciate a good game which is well thought of and even if I may not be the partner of the bidder who wins, I still respect the winning pair despite my loss. Conversely, I despise those who come into my room and mess up any game.

*those of you who had been blocked and kicked by me, you now know the reason why and do not ever try to ask me to unblock you because Bridge is a thinking game, and if you cannot think, do no play (with me).

[xff]

and just a couple of days ago, someone tried to be "funny" by not revealing her ACE. Like come on.. not like you don't know how to play, why are you trying to be "funny" when I'm putting my effort to win? If you don't intend to take the game seriously, don't even bother playing!

Is it so FUN to mess up people's game? Initially when you did the same thing to your partner, I felt bad for him. Still, I decided not to leave because it might be a mistake or something. But I was wrong. You did it on purpose. (what a douche.)

and mind you, she plays frequently and her level is high. (of course not higher than mine)

However, I'm kind enough not to point out who you are and embarrass you here. You need that.


okay, nuff said. blocked.

[superrookie91]

Running away from your mistakes or purposely leave the game as if you DC-ed is just too cowardly. When i accidentally make mistakes which cause the lost of the game i would rather stay and get kicked or told off instead of running away. I believe people who play this game should be able to think maturely and not do childish things.

[ycsdy]

that why...

everytime u bid....

say TRY!!!....

TRY IS A VERY POWERFUL n USEFUL word....

TRY!!!!! TRY!!! TRY!!!...

lose liao... nm... coz is....TRY MAR!

[alhazi]

Originally Posted by papaya28juice

that why...

everytime u bid....

say TRY!!!....

TRY IS A VERY POWERFUL n USEFUL word....

TRY!!!!! TRY!!! TRY!!!...

lose liao... nm... coz is....TRY MAR!

lol... but i bid means im trying alrdy.

[imBOREDx]

Originally Posted by tlautrec

Hi guys!

I'm sure many of you have encountered one or two games where it ended pretty close, with the final card a winner based on a wrong discard. And then comes the apologies. Blah blah.

Imagine this, the above happening perhaps 10 times in a row. Now, the apologies for the 10th time, would it still work? I'm sure it is still a sincere, heartfelt apology. And of course, this is just a game, why go so hard on the poor person who's already apologized?

Now, if we extrapolate into the future, such apologies are bound to happen tons of times again. Because whoever who's making these mistakes are not changing them. It is indeed just a game, but for the sake of showing the basic respect to the people who are playing it properly, you should make an effort to think a little before you play. I'm sure it's not half as difficult as PSLE mathematics for someone to realise that after putting down DIAMONDS twice in a row and getting it trumped by the declarer, the declarer's last card is definitely NOT a diamond. And yet he still kept diamonds. I mean, this is clearly not putting in any effort into your play.

You might call me obssessed with wins/losses. No, I'm not as obssessed with that as with one's respect for the opponents. I give my best when I play and when I see people making a mistake or two, I give some advice to them to tell them that that could be improved. When I make mistakes and when people tell me that it's wrong, I apologize and I try to remember NOT TO REPEAT IT. Of course, you could treat it as a game and just brush it away. But if you're that afraid of being told off, and yet you don't want to know how to not get told off the next time, are you really improving when you see that 'LEVEL UP' sign next to your username?

And even before I finish my words, everyone leaves the room. Just like how kids hide away their bad test scores from their parents and don't want to listen to their reprimanding. If you want to shut me up, prove to me that what I've said is history and you can play well now. I would be sincerely and pleasantly surprised if any of my words helped you to play better. AND if my advice is wrong, feel free to tell me what is wrong. Ignoring will just makes me think that I'm right and I'm not even shy of thinking that way.

So this is what this bridge community is about? Not learning from mistakes and hates being told off? Running away? Too weak to rebuff me?

I got that alot cus im not pro in zany ):

[echaos]

in almost every game, even it is not viwawa...some of the players will do such stuff...

[ycsdy]

after thinking for so long ..... sorry is..

Super Junior
Sorry Sorry lyrics


Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry
Naega naega naega meonjeo
Nege nege nege ppajyeo
Ppajyeo ppajyeo beoryeo baby
Shawty Shawty Shawty Shawty
Nuni busyeo busyeo busyeo
Sumi makhyeo makhyeo makhyeo
Naega michyeo michyeo baby

[Siwon] Baraboneun nunbit soge
Nunbit soge naneun machi
Naneun machi mwoe hollin nom
[Yesung] (Ijen beoseonajido motae)
[Kyuhyun] Georeooneun neoui moseup
Neoui moseup neoneun machi
Nae simjangeul barpgo wannabwa
[Yesung] (Ijen beoseonajido motae)

[Ryewook] Eodil gana dangdanghage
Utneun neoneun maeryeokjeok
[Sungmin] Chakhan yeoja ilsaegiran
Saenggakdeureun bopyeonjeok
[Ryeowook] Dodohage geochim eopge
Jeongmal neoneun hwansangjeok
[Sungmin] Dorikil su eobseulmankeum
Nege ppajyeo beoryeosseo

Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry
Naega naega naega meonjeo
Nege nege nege ppajyeo
Ppajyeo ppajyeo beoryeo baby
Shawty Shawty Shawty Shawty
Nuni busyeo busyeo busyeo
Sumi makhyeo makhyeo makhyeo
Naega michyeo michyeo baby

Ttanttan ttanttada tta ttaranttan
Ttanttan ttanttada tta
[Siwon] Nege banhaebeoryeosseo baby
[All] Ttanttan ttanttada tta ttaranttan
Ttanttan ttanttada tta ttarappappara

[Donghae] Hey girl gir gir gir gir gir girl I
Nunmantteumyeon ni saenggak (Hey girl)
Janakkaena sasil neo hana bakke anboyeo
[Yesung] (Malhaebwa) [Kangin] Ni mame naega
[Yesung] (Malhaebwa) [Kangin] Jari jabanneunji
[Yesung] (Malhaejwo) [Kangin] Naege marhaejwo
[Yesung] (Naneun babo babo babo)

[Ryewook] Jubyeon saramdeureun malhae
Naega neomu jeokgeukjeok
[Sungmin] I sesange geureon saram
Eodi handurinyago
[Ryeowook] Geugeol molla geunyeol molla
Shigihamyeo haneun mal
[Sungmin] Naega bureopdamyeon geugeon
Geudaedeuri jineun geo

[warlordvergil]

Which language is that...

[x_DI_DI]

Originally Posted by warlordvergil

Which language is that...

warlordvergil the song that papaya28juice wrote was a korean song

[rttaa]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz sorry sorry korean song

[steffy63]

Sometimes, the person that says sorry, may not be at fault. Because it's just that his/her cards are bad since its the computer that's mixing.