You Play Sushido Or Sushido Play You Part 2 - Cash Or No Cash?

cute_hachiko · #1 8th June 2011

In part 1, we have discussed about the possiblity of AIs in the game and thank to ad**n, we now know that there are no AIs in the game. But the fact that there are no AIs in this game alone does not give an convincing answer to the question the title suggested . In this second part, I will start off on the why some skills and items in this game can only be brought with cash but not gold. As we all know, cash only skills (which grabs all the same type of ingredient on the board instead of only six on two types), cash only items (like treats to prolonging the waiting time of the customers) and the skill lantern generate advantage over player who do not own these.

At the same time, I came across many player who told me that they never spend cash on this game so I guess they probably just want to have fun but don't want to spend cash. As a lot of us clearly know, player can use lots of cash to gain enormous advantages and went on to win every opponents who are without all the cash only skills and items, and with regardless of how many combos that opponent managed to hit in a match. This leave the competitive arena with a major off balance of fairness between two categories of player - cash user player and non cash user player. My experience with most of cash user player are that they can earn up to a thousand of gold easily in a match so no doubt they will be able to get their desired skills and items fast enough to gain levels that reach hundred in a pretty short time. They will ultimately beat the game.

On the other hand, players who do not use cash at all on this game will have enormous disadvantage up against cash user player, making it a lot harder plus slower to level up or save up enough gold to get the desired skills and items. Most of them will be hoping not to match against cash user player who are in the levels of hundred, but as long as anyone manage to win in the arena, they will meet other winners who could likely be a cash user in the arena. So if you are thinking about not using cash to play sushido, think again, is it fun to endure being thrash by a cash user player ocassionally after every match. This is the intention behind the organisation who create online games like this kind aims to do so - to tempt you to become a cash user player or maybe you have already become one? (remember M****Story)

I believe some of the people play for the sole purpose of getting all the awards and trophies in their profile so that their own clan members will be very proud of them (I rather use all that cash and time spend to learn some software and design a beautiful website for my clan members to use). In my opinion, using cash to become invincible will eventually lead one possibility - players grew tired of the game after countless of victories because wouldn't it be bored to continuing winning after you have won every awards and trophies? Unless people really have nothing better to do and just want to win and win...

Either way, cash user or not, player bound to grow tired of this game and soon realised that they have wasted too much time on this game which the title pretty much suggested - you play the game or the game play you...

Soichiro · #2 8th June 2011

Actually... very few games can keep players engaged for a long time, even if they do keep adding new content. There's just too many options out there.

Using cash doesn't make u invincible... just increases your chances of winning. u still need to be a decent player to win. Some cash players really cmi, but are just happy with better odds. Anyway, still a challenge when cash player vs cash player.

Actually... no offense but, what is the purpose of this thread? Maybe it makes more sense to start a discussion on ideas on how to keep players interested in this game instead? (for both cash and non-cash players)

liewteckliang · #3 8th June 2011

the world now is NO MONEY NO TALK...
if there is no player top up csah in VIWAWA ..
admin eat wat o??????
and wat is the purpose of making VIWAWA???
of course is $$$$$

cute_hachiko · #4 8th June 2011

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Originally Posted by liewteckliang

the world now is NO MONEY NO TALK...
if there is no player top up csah in VIWAWA ..
admin eat wat o??????
and wat is the purpose of making VIWAWA???
of course is $$$$$

The world now is, NO MONEY BUT A LOT OF MONKEYS...
Ad**n eat wat not my business!!!
Not interested in wat is the purpose of making VIWAWA also...
So please, how to keep players interested in continue playing this game is the purpose of the discussion here.

birdybirdy · #5 9th June 2011

make the game more addictive.

cute_hachiko · #6 10th June 2011

I think need to clarified a bit on this thread. There is a few purpose why I start this thread:

1. To let people share their ideals on what can be done to improve the game.

1. To let people share opinions on how to build up your sushido inventory.

3. To gather methods and strategies people use on playing the game.

huige · #7 10th June 2011

Interesting views and discussions. I do not deny your aspects and angle of your views as well as from other fellow viwawaians. However, in short, the focus on your discussion is jus to dicuss on the significance and various aspects of vww cash investment in sushido - short and simple, NOT the last three objectives that you seem to popped put out of nowhere related to your current comments. Otherwise, you would have also been equally interested in pointing out suggestions, instead of jus purely 100 percent describing and criticizing the situation in sushido again as I have also pointed out in your first thread, as well as absurdly sidetracking your own issue to other non related area(s) like criticizing the running of the organisation not related to your aim, which is purely on the game alone and NOT anything else for my goodness. Hence, I suggest to watch out for your direction and intensity running in your mind and emotions when you want to criticize.

"This leave the competitive arena with a major off balance of fairness between two categories of player - cash user player and non cash user player. " - You view it as being in aspect of fairness, including the fairness on the chances of winning, while some players might just view it as fun, dun mind etc. Different viewpoints, different mindsets. Thus, please be mindful not to phrase in such a way that or assume that all your views and pointers will be definitely conclusive, including this point, as what I have similarly pointed out in your 1st thread.

As for my views, I personally see those cash requirements upgrades as a bonus to add more fun and excitement to the match lo - I dun mind to have a must to have them in my set as I will just feel that it is playing for the fun and as a brain teaser to think what moves to proceed etc. I am not very disturbed by the comparisons and influuences on wins and loses - the cash items are just a bonus, and it may be up to mnidsets of individuals to view them as whether they are temptations to have them or not, such as if they have the mindset of really wanting to win etc.

There are also previous threads and discussions on the cash significance in the old viwawa forums with heated discussions, and what I would always suggest in light of such similar issues is jus reflect on your mindset on how you view the cash items - as simple as that. (:

cute_hachiko · #8 11th June 2011

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Originally Posted by huige

Interesting views and discussions. I do not deny your aspects and angle of your views as well as from other fellow viwawaians. However, in short, the focus on your discussion is jus to dicuss on the significance and various aspects of vww cash investment in sushido - short and simple, NOT the last three objectives that you seem to popped put out of nowhere related to your current comments. Otherwise, you would have also been equally interested in pointing out suggestions, instead of jus purely 100 percent describing and criticizing the situation in sushido again as I have also pointed out in your first thread, as well as absurdly sidetracking your own issue to other non related area(s) like criticizing the running of the organisation not related to your aim, which is purely on the game alone and NOT anything else for my goodness. Hence, I suggest to watch out for your direction and intensity running in your mind and emotions when you want to criticize.

"This leave the competitive arena with a major off balance of fairness between two categories of player - cash user player and non cash user player. " - You view it as being in aspect of fairness, including the fairness on the chances of winning, while some players might just view it as fun, dun mind etc. Different viewpoints, different mindsets. Thus, please be mindful not to phrase in such a way that or assume that all your views and pointers will be definitely conclusive, including this point, as what I have similarly pointed out in your 1st thread.

As for my views, I personally see those cash requirements upgrades as a bonus to add more fun and excitement to the match lo - I dun mind to have a must to have them in my set as I will just feel that it is playing for the fun and as a brain teaser to think what moves to proceed etc. I am not very disturbed by the comparisons and influuences on wins and loses - the cash items are just a bonus, and it may be up to mnidsets of individuals to view them as whether they are temptations to have them or not, such as if they have the mindset of really wanting to win etc.

There are also previous threads and discussions on the cash significance in the old viwawa forums with heated discussions, and what I would always suggest in light of such similar issues is jus reflect on your mindset on how you view the cash items - as simple as that. (:

Maybe you are right, shouldn't have even start the two thread at all. Can admin remove all the threads that I have posted about sushido?

huige · #9 12th June 2011

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Originally Posted by cute_hachiko

Maybe you are right, shouldn't have even start the two thread at all. Can admin remove all the threads that I have posted about sushido?

Lol.. no lah not necessary to do that lah.. it's ok to have discussions ar.. why would you have such thoughts leh? (:

Cleverboy123 · #10 12th June 2011

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Originally Posted by cute_hachiko

In part 1, we have discussed about the possiblity of AIs in the game and thank to ad**n, we now know that there are no AIs in the game. But the fact that there are no AIs in this game alone does not give an convincing answer to the question the title suggested . In this second part, I will start off on the why some skills and items in this game can only be brought with cash but not gold. As we all know, cash only skills (which grabs all the same type of ingredient on the board instead of only six on two types), cash only items (like treats to prolonging the waiting time of the customers) and the skill lantern generate advantage over player who do not own these.

At the same time, I came across many player who told me that they never spend cash on this game so I guess they probably just want to have fun but don't want to spend cash. As a lot of us clearly know, player can use lots of cash to gain enormous advantages and went on to win every opponents who are without all the cash only skills and items, and with regardless of how many combos that opponent managed to hit in a match. This leave the competitive arena with a major off balance of fairness between two categories of player - cash user player and non cash user player. My experience with most of cash user player are that they can earn up to a thousand of gold easily in a match so no doubt they will be able to get their desired skills and items fast enough to gain levels that reach hundred in a pretty short time. They will ultimately beat the game.

On the other hand, players who do not use cash at all on this game will have enormous disadvantage up against cash user player, making it a lot harder plus slower to level up or save up enough gold to get the desired skills and items. Most of them will be hoping not to match against cash user player who are in the levels of hundred, but as long as anyone manage to win in the arena, they will meet other winners who could likely be a cash user in the arena. So if you are thinking about not using cash to play sushido, think again, is it fun to endure being thrash by a cash user player ocassionally after every match. This is the intention behind the organisation who create online games like this kind aims to do so - to tempt you to become a cash user player or maybe you have already become one? (remember M****Story)

I believe some of the people play for the sole purpose of getting all the awards and trophies in their profile so that their own clan members will be very proud of them (I rather use all that cash and time spend to learn some software and design a beautiful website for my clan members to use). In my opinion, using cash to become invincible will eventually lead one possibility - players grew tired of the game after countless of victories because wouldn't it be bored to continuing winning after you have won every awards and trophies? Unless people really have nothing better to do and just want to win and win...

Either way, cash user or not, player bound to grow tired of this game and soon realised that they have wasted too much time on this game which the title pretty much suggested - you play the game or the game play you...

lol... you write alot words like writing a composition. I read until so tired and want to sleep le. If you want to write compo go school write dont come here write... *NO OFFENCE*

jokerkc · #11 12th June 2011

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Originally Posted by jeryl122

lol... you write alot words like writing a composition. I read until so tired and want to sleep le. If you want to write compo go school write dont come here write... *NO OFFENCE*

Argee ~

just list the point plz

birdybirdy · #12 13th June 2011

if you really wan to have a discussion thread, i think you should start on a new thread with a more appropriate title instead of your current title for the 2 thread.

and also you may choose to close the thread.

cute_hachiko · #13 14th June 2011

Thank you all for your advice. Its been a lesson learn for me here since this is my first time posting threads. Closing this thread...