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Old 9th October 2009
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Dear Sushido players

There's an update today to fix situations where your opponent is no longer around, or "away from keyboard".

When this is detected, the match will terminate within 30s or end as "Abandoned".
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Old 9th October 2009
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Admin,

Do u think of what if that player know that he/she is going to lose that match, he/she can pretend to be afk without doing/clicking any moves? So that they can abandon the match if the system detected him/her is under afk mode. Instead of requesting to abandon the match as for some won't accept the request.

If this so, does this fair to others and to those who used the machines refills?

I just met once and i tot that the system having prob again auto abandon match while i was winning during that match zzz
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Old 9th October 2009
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ya lor.. admin ar.. have you thought of this afk viewpoint extensively? AFK can be classified into two situations. Firstly, the situation when the game has not started, and secondly, situation during the game. It seems this solution can only fairly apply to the first situation leh.. then if it was in game then how?? Like what MingMH had pointed it out, which i also agree, during the game if opponent losing then purposely not to continue pressing for 30s, then if this solution comes in after that, the loser party will not lose as much as the winning party, especially when it happened in arena where winning a match can earn up to 200 plus xp leh. Admin ar, tell me is this fair to the winning party or not if this were to be also implemented during game? Or otherwise the other party had afk for other reason also is not fair to the other active party mah. Give way to such players in game only lor, especioally those notorious players purposely not wanting to continue on. I suggest this solution not to be implemented during game i.e. just apply to the situation when the game has not started.
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Old 9th October 2009
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ya, i agree with huige. Which this is really unfair to those who were in match playing and was under winning mode.

and before this release, it was the solution where if that player wasnt making any moves for 4 rounds, it will be -150 gold as well as xp for the 5th turn.

If admin going to keep this system update, i guess this will only helps where the match is NOT STARTED and not during half way. Which is i think it's fair to both.
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Old 9th October 2009
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quite right.if not effort wasted...
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Old 9th October 2009
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Refer to Groword thread. This fix does not affect anything within a game that really started. It deals with the original issue where players wait for over 10 minutes without any response or timeout from opponent.
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Old 9th October 2009
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haha.. ok. noted.

Er.. at the start it was not stated clearly de lor what situation it applies to. how can we assume.. zzz.. so I just cover everything lor.

It will not apply during game, but I was told by MingMH it actually still happens during game. I personally have not played any games in vww today, so I cannot confirm. I dunno whether she will post her piece of evidence here to demonstrate this contradiction.

Admin, you all can play to double check this contradiction lor.
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Old 9th October 2009
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ok admin, to quote from gw thread.

''There is no penalty in this scenario because we believe that the player had already left the game before the match was created but the server wasn't notified.''

Few hours ago, i met the case is that, the player is in the room and was playing half way. And when u said, ''believe that the player had already left the game before the match''. So since u believe that player had left before the game started, why when the auto abandon case i met, that player able to score $297 since ''already left the match''? IF ''that player already left, isn't his/her score should be $0 instead of $297?

And after i had score up to $400 and he/she is just $200+, he/she stop clicking any moves, and after few turns, the match was auto abandoned. After auto abandoned, he/she left the match immediately. And i dont even know what's going on to the game that played half way. Which i did not even receive any abandon request during the match and it turns up match abandoned.
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Old 10th October 2009
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Default 回复: Opponent "AFK" issue

Original situation:
Opponent appears to be away when players enter match, nothing happens. Wait for 60s, match starts, but still nothing happens. After XXX minutes, leave match and get maximum penalty.

Now:
Opponent appears to be away when players enter match, nothing happens. Wait for 30s, match abandoned. Both players do not get penalty.

There is no penalty in this scenario because we believe that the player had already left the game before the match was created but the server wasn't notified.

i still very confuse.for example:i play arena,the server pick mingmh play with me,i think,mingmh is too strong.so,i enter match, nothing happens. Wait for 30s, match abandoned.In my opinion,this is very unfair to mingmh,let the player choosing opponent.who want play with high level players?

i think go back to original situation is more suitable.because everyone will click start button to avoid penalty.
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Old 10th October 2009
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Default Re: Opponent "AFK" issue

Duely noted, the changes have been temporarily reverted. We'll update again on Monday.
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Old 10th October 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aken_cheok View Post
i still very confuse.for example:i play arena,the server pick mingmh play with me,i think,mingmh is too strong.so,i enter match, nothing happens. Wait for 30s, match abandoned.In my opinion,this is very unfair to mingmh,let the player choosing opponent.who want play with high level players?

i think go back to original situation is more suitable.because everyone will click start button to avoid penalty.
This does not apply to your situation because you have already entered the match. We're referring to situations where the player had closed the game before being matched and the server had not detected the disconnection yet.
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Default 回复: Opponent "AFK" issue

oh i see,ha ha,i get it,thanks.
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